03 - Beyond Steorn, a real permanent magnet motor.
This model goes from 6 rotor magnets to 4, alternating poles facing out and a steel strap inside to control the flux path. Should make it a little easier to create a cam to drive the stator up and down ever so slightly which is all that’s needed to create continuous unidirectional rotation.
Even with fewer magnets I am able to demonstrate acceleration of a much larger inertial load than previous. The only thing I use a battery for is it’s mass. To with the charge!
More to come. Enjoy!
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September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Only if I ever get …
Only if I ever get it to work on it’s own. Everyone knows it’s a long shot but what if…? The potential reward is far greater than any ridicule one might have to endure along the way.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Can you power your …
Can you power your house or appliances until the end of time with that full turn motor?
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
How about putting a …
How about putting a wheel of magnets on each side and a magnet on each side of the arm and try to set the magnets up so that as one spins by it raises the arm when on the other side the arm should be falling…
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Yes it is. And yet …
Yes it is. And yet the lure to try is persistant.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
It’s a tough thing …
It’s a tough thing trying to beat the laws of thermodynamics. It’s like trying to “hack” the universe — but more like entertaining your brain with the thought that you can somehow sustain this without burning the calories you gained from the food you ate which grew from energy generated by the Sun…
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
hey think about it …
hey think about it woulndt a bike work great with this idea? you wouldnt have to push the bike pedals to get a good speed and not have to use so much strenght.what you guys think?
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
It’s a nice idea, …
It’s a nice idea, but what your doing is cutting the field lines of magnets with another magnet, much the same way the coils in an electric motor cut the field lines, you can get pretty impressive speed from small hand movements but you will find that if you load the rotor(btw a heavy battery on the rotor only goes against inertia, think of winding up a flywheel) the load will force it to slow to a stop, and your biggest loss is going to be through any cam arrangement, but experimenting is fun!
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Not yet.
Not yet.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
nice work!
have …
nice work!
have you tried using an electro magnet and pulsing it instead of a lever?
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Pretty impressive.
Pretty impressive.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Google “Flying …
Google “Flying Dutchman Projects”. Guys on this Yahoo board have been trying for three years to get continuous rotation on a magnetic wheel. Not one of them has gotten it to work. Videos of Kohei Minato in Japan show him pumping an exterior magnet to get continuous rotation. He’s adding energy just like you are. You are in a tough row to hoe to get something like this to work.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Suspended account, …
Suspended account, eh? There’s a big surprise. Looks like it time for him to GET lost.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Lever ratio is also …
Lever ratio is also about 2:1. Combined ratio of the entire mechanical assembly actuating the stator will be 4:1.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Thanks for replying …
Thanks for replying ZeroFossilFuel. One question: What is the ratio on that lever - the fulcrum that is. Okay, I’ll leave you alone to get thing up and running. You’re the man, and I can’t wait
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Under load is the …
Under load is the whole point! We need useful output. I have always contended - Any viable design will produce so much excess energy that it will accelerate on it’s own, from a virtual stop, to the point of self destruction if not regulated. Perendev as an example is a joke. They spin like the flywheels that they are and make a whirring noise but that’s it. Show me ACCELERATION. Then I’ll be impressed.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Not sure what that …
Not sure what that is. I’ll take a look when I have some spare time. Thanks.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
If I were to …
If I were to actuate the stator from up and down cam lobes at the perimeter of the rotor I agree. However there will be a total mechanical advantage of 4:1 when all is said and done between the rotor and stator. Since the stator need only travel 2-3mm to drive the rotor to full power, I’m fairly confident it will work. We’ll see soon. I promise!
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
See my parts …
See my parts description video.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I’ve tried a couple …
I’ve tried a couple other magnetic type motor devices out there, but one advantage this one has is it works under a load. Very exciting ZeroFossilFuel!
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Isn’t the Torbay …
Isn’t the Torbay setup not an idea for this setup? I am working on something similar
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
My hunch is that …
My hunch is that you will find that it takes the same amount of effort (or slightly more due to losses) to move the stator arm up and down as is output by the spinning rotor. It only seems like it is putting out more. But I hope I’m wrong
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I don’t think a …
I don’t think a simple cam will do it - what will stop the stator arm from flying up? It needs a fixed track that pushes the arm up and pulls it down all the way around the rotor - and of course the arm should reach horizontal at the centre point of each magnet. I hope I’m making sense.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
P.S. If you haven’t …
P.S. If you haven’t already, please rate my videos. Try to disregard the quality and focus on content.
September 11th, 2008 at 1:34 am
Same. Just takes a …
Same. Just takes a little longer to accelerate.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:51 am
What about if you had two disks; one with south poles out and the other with north poles out. With the actuating arm between the two disks and with its magnet vertical and the arm well balanced, it might significantly reduce the work required to move it up and down. You could also try rotating the magnet on the arm to see what difference it makes pushing or pulling. I understand that when two magnets are pushing against each other all the time they soon lose their magnetism. I must say I’ve enjoyed your videos even though physics says it can’t be done, but science has said at one stage or another that just about everything couldn’t be done.